In episode 254, astrologers Chris Brennan and Lisa Schaim discuss a recent article. The New York Times claimed that astrologers did not predict the recent world crisis and some problems with media coverage of astrology as well as the practice of secular astrology.
The starting point for this discussion was an article published in the New York Times on May 9, 2020. Is the coronavirus killing astrology?
The author focuses primarily on Sun Sign astrologer Susan Miller, and the main argument is that not only did astrologers not predict the Covid-19 pandemic, but in their predictions for 2020, they did not predict that it would be a difficult year for the whole world.
During the episode, we discuss the article and its claims, question the validity of some of its conclusions, and then discuss some broader issues regarding the practice and perception of astrology.
This episode is available in audio and video versions below.
Secular astrology is discussed in this section
In this episode, we discuss the work of two ordinary astrologers, Andre Barbault and Richard Tarnas.
Andre Barbault was a French astrologer who died in October 2019. In 2012, he published a paper entitled A Study of Pandemics (Aperçu sur les Pandémies), in which he studied the alignment of the outer planets that coincided with major pandemics of the past century, and then used this information to make further predictions. major pandemic:
“Returning to pandemics in the last century, four crises stand out: 1918, 1954, 1968, and 1982, the first two being the infamous ‘Spanish flu’ that killed 25 million people, and the last, AIDS, which has been devastating ever since. growth, compared to the last cyclical index (2010), we may be at risk of a new pandemic between 2020 and 2021, at the lowest point of the cyclical index of the 21st century, with the outer planets approaching from one fifth to several hundred percent. it can transfer to the area of geophysical disasters without indifference.
This prediction is published Astrologer journal (Astrologer), No. 177 in the first quarter of 2012. Full text of the original article Available at André Barbault’s websiteThe above paragraph was translated by astrologer Mark Cullen Skyscript forum topicand I am working on a full English translation of the article to be published soon.
Update: You can read the full translation of the article or download a scan of the original French here:
In this episode we also discuss the study of published secular astrology Richard Tarnas in his 2006 book Cosmos and Psychealso interesting research has been done on certain pandemics that coincided with Saturn and Pluto conjunctions, which many astrologers noted happened again in January of this year:
“Another such defining (Saturn-Pluto) conjunction coincided with the outbreak and spread of the Black Death of 1348-51, which similarly devastated Europe and set in motion the cultural and economic shifts that permanently changed European life in the late Middle Ages. The Black Death, or Bubonic Plague, began in China in 1333 at the same time as the earlier Saturn-Pluto opposition and peaked in Europe. In 1348-51 during the period of combination. A similar pattern can be seen in the AIDS epidemic, which was first widespread and identified during the Saturn-Pluto conjunction of 1981-84 and reached pandemic proportions throughout the world, especially in Africa, during the subsequent Saturn-Pluto opposition of 2000-04. (Cosmos and psychep. 217)
During the show, we’ll discuss whether research like this can prove the opposite of the claim made by the New York Times article, why such shocks are so common, and whether or not astrologers can do anything about them.
Time signs
Here are some timestamps for the topics covered at various points in the episode:
00:00:00 Login
00:02:53 Media coverage of astrology
00:07:00 NYT Astrology Hit Piece
00:11:06 Who will the media interview?
00:15:35 Mundane vs individual astrology
00:29:10 Complexities of world astrology
00:32:10 Experts in secular astrology
00:36:08 Richard Tarnas work on the Saturn-Pluto cycle
00:52:40 Andre Barbault’s prediction for 2020
01:02:29 Conspiracy theories
01:07:10 NYT’s treatment of astrology
01:16:42 Misconceptions in public forecasting
01:31:30 2020 Astrological Weather Review
01:43:30 Are there enough warnings?
01:59:40 Study of secular astrology
02:11:40 Tribute to Astrology
02:14:20 Covid
02:17:17 Saturn is the return of the internet
02:26:45 Closing remarks
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