Episode 296 features a conversation with astrologer Sue Ward about considerations before making judgments in horary horoscopes.
Prejudice is a collection of aphorisms first described in the 17th century by William Lilly in his book. Christian Astrology.
Lilly introduces them as a set of considerations for answering horary questions and determining whether a question has a “radical” or strong basis.
Comments were made by later authors, and by the middle of the 20th century, it had become a set of “constraints” that indicated whether a horary chart could be read at all or should be rejected outright.
In the 1980s there was a revival of interest in the practice of horary astrology, particularly in the work of Lilly. reprint Christian Astrology in 1985.
By 1992, some astrologers such as Maurice McCann claimed that Lilly still read ominous questions that contained one or more thoughts. Christian Astrology.
This raised the question of why these considerations should actually be used and what, if any, significance they have in interpreting horary charts.
Starting in 1992, Sue Ward wrote a series of influential articles on meditation in which she explored their purpose and offered a new perspective on their meaning.
During this work, he made a number of discoveries, including a remarkable observation about work certainly the definition of emptiness Lilly practiced.
In this interview, we want to talk about Sue’s work on prejudicial reasoning and try to place it in the historical context of the revival of traditional horary astrology in the 1980s and 90s.
You can find out more about Sue on her blog:
Twitter: @susanward or email: sueward2459@icloud.com
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Episode Outline / Show Notes
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Pre-Judgment Reflections Episode Summary
This is the version of the show that Chris prepared before the interview.
Bibliography
Below is a bibliography of some of the works featured in this episode. Thanks to Philip Graves from Astrolearn Astrology Library for researching this episode and for help scanning Sue’s old articles.
Sue Ward, “Of course, the hollow Moon: An important discovery,” in Horary PractitionerOctober 23, 1992, Issue 15, pp. 6-8.
Maurice McCann, “Lilly Says … Link to Pre-Sentence Considerations”, Astrology QuarterlyVol. No. 63, No. 1, Winter 1992, pp. 38-44.
Sue Ward, “The Lilly Method: A Reply to Maurice McCann,” Astrology QuarterlyVol. 63 No. 2, Spring 1993, pp. 22-31.
Sue Ward, “Revised pre-judgment review,” Horary PractitionerVol. 8, Issue 22, July 1997, pp. 8-20.
Peter Stockinger and Sue Ward, William Lilley: The Last Magician, Astrologer, and MasterMandrake, 2014.
Pre-Trial Considerations Pictures
Some illustrations of pre-judgment considerations as seen in William Lilley, Christian Astrology (1647), pp. 121-123:
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Update (4/6/2021): See section 298 for more information on considerations Horary Horoscope Revise Pre-Judgment Considerations.
Time signs
Here are some timestamps for the topics covered at various points in the episode:
00:00:00 Login
00:01:30 Sue’s background
00:07:25 Sue’s study of horary astrology
00:10:44 Teacher Olivia Barclay
00:14:40 Olivia’s famous students
00:16:52 William Lilley and the revival of horary
00:27:43 Overview of Lilly’s pre-sentence comments
00:37:30 In the 1970s, the reasoning became “toughness.”
00:41:40 Maurice McCann’s opinion piece
00:48:20 Statements of Opinion by John Frawley
00:49:55 Sue’s article in response to McCann
00:52:06 The importance of context in Horary
00:56:58 The problem of perceptions of history
01:00:07 Sue’s tribute to Lilly’s text
01:05:08 Criteria for Horary questions
01:15:01 The downside of computer diagrams
01:16:56 Horary magic in process
01:18:50 The role of an astrologer in a horary chart
01:22:00 Christian Astrology Publishing Details
01:23:56 Sue’s book on William Lilly
01:31:20 Commentary 1: Lord of the Hour and Ascension
01:45:05 Consideration 2: Promotion in the first few levels of character
01:48:22 Comment 3: Ascension is in the last few levels of the sign.
01:59:04 Observation 4: The Moon is in the next degrees of the sign
02:05:14 Comment 5: The moon is in the combust
02:07:23 Comment 6: The moon is definitely void
02:33:25 7th Consideration: 7th house cusp or afflicted lord
02:43:27 Observation 9: Saturn in 7th house
02:45:57 Comment 8: Saturn in Ascendant
02:46:39 Reflection 10: Lord of Ascended Burning
02:49:08 Commentary 11: 7th unlucky or fall or lord of harmful boundaries
02:48:21 Comment 12: When the testimonies of the beneficial and the bad people are equal
02:54:47 Christian astrology written during the plague
02:55:44 Sue received a recent Jupiter-Saturn conjunction
02:57:50 Summary of comments
02:59:34 Sue’s book about Lilly
03:01:38 Sue’s suggestions and blog
03:03:44 Closing remarks
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