In Episode 270, astrologers Chris Brennan and Leisa Schaim discuss how you can use natal astrology to interpret your birth chart even if you don’t have a birth date.
Since the 1st century BC, Western astrology has focused heavily on the use of timed birth charts, and natal astrology has many techniques that can only be used if you know the exact time of a person’s birth.
Although the time of birth is usually recorded on a person’s birth certificate in most western countries, not everyone knows or can obtain their own time of birth, meaning there are some methods that simply cannot be applied to their chart.
In this podcast, we aim to discuss how to work with a person’s birth chart even if their birth time is unknown, and what we’ve discovered along the way is that there’s a lot you can do without knowing your birth time.
Below you’ll find the show notes, followed by links to download the recording.
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Show episode outline and notes
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- What methods can be applied to the birth chart if there is no birth time?
- There should be no question of correction.
- Methods of interpretation of the spontaneous birth chart and methods of determining the time.
- I posted a survey Twitter and Facebookso thanks to everyone who replied
Preliminary issues
- First of all, we should start by explaining why the time of birth is important.
- Western birth astrology focuses on knowing the time of birth.
- Time of birth is needed to calculate Ascendant or Ascendant sign
- From the ascendant, the houses that determine the areas of life are calculated.
- Other techniques such as lots or Arabic parts depend on the time of birth
- By extension, some timing techniques like zodiacal release take time
- Even the basic method of annual prophecy requires an ascendant sign
- If a person is born close to the cusp, the Sun can change signs in one day
- The moon moves about 13 degrees per day, so signs change every 2-3 days
- The rising sign changes every 1-2 hours
- Original word for Ascendant In the horoscope or hour mark
- A horoscope is any horoscope that uses an ascendant sign
First try to find your birth time
- First of all, make sure you have exhausted all possibilities to find your birth time
- Try hard to find your birth time
- Talk to your parents or other relatives who may know
- Trying to find your birth certificate
- Baby book
- Family Bible
- Order your original birth certificate or a copy from the state
- Get a birth certificate
- The state sometimes creates a digital copy that may not have time
- A birth certificate is usually more accurate because parents’ memories are unreliable
- Even if you can’t find the time, see if you can narrow it down to what part of the day it is
- Try to build a time machine
- If most of these fail, try the following steps
Install the diagram
- Some people use the Sunrise schedule
- Choosing the time the Sun rose that morning
- Sunny houses
- But if they were born at night, could the lunar houses be more suitable?
- (We forgot to mention this issue in the post)
- We prefer to use the lunch schedule (set the schedule for 12:00 on the birthday)
- Because then you know it can only be 6 degrees below the Moon
- Signs and aspects are correct, but ignore the houses
- House placement depends on ascendant and time of birth
- Also, ignore Lot of Fortune and other lots
Ways to interpret premature birth
- The zodiacal signs in which the planets are located should be very stable
- Pay attention to the aspects between the planets
- Both by aspect sign and by degree of aspect
- Aspects based on a closer level are more important
- In the order of signs, the previous planets play a dominant role in relationships
- Aspect patterns are often valid regardless of birth time
- Planets as common symbols for various subjects
- Venus relations
- The uniqueness of the solar core
- Lunar emotions
- Mercury connections
- Mars claim
- Ascension of Jupiter
- Saturn Consolidation
- Descendants of the Outer Planets
- The phase of the moon should be known approximately
- How important is your upbringing
Timing techniques
- Transits
- Mostly usable, but Sun/Moon may be slightly off
- I don’t know what kind of houses they are in
- Now transferring aspects to birth places
- Life stage transits
- Saturn return
- Saturn squares and opposes natal placement
- Uranus aspects
- Uranus square and Uranus opposition
- All character and level based aspects
- Approved home themes
- You can know which career year you are in without knowing the rising sign
- Prophecy from planets for subjects
- If you know the day or night schedule, prof
- It can be affected by both illuminants anyway
- Secondary progressions
- Especially retrograde or direct planets
- I don’t get much use out of the moon
- Planets Changing Signs (Introduction)
- When the aspects are clear
- Solar arcs
- We don’t use it much, but someone might
- Symbolic directions of Charles Carter
- Venus retrograde and Mars retro cycles
Other things
- Synastry
- By aspect based on sign and close degree
- Composite diagrams
- He doesn’t know the houses, but he knows the sides
Summary
- It’s not the end of the world
- You can do a lot without a birth date
- If you know your birthday, it’s a good thing
- Some astrologers may not feel confident in dealing with it
- But there are many who do
- Good luck
Time signs
Here are some timestamps for the topics covered at various points in the episode:
00:00:00 Login
00:02:00 Why is the time of birth important?
00:06:28 How to get the time of birth
00:15:48 Sunrise and lunch schedule
00:21:28 Planets in signs and aspects
00:24:00 What to ignore
00:26:12 What to focus on
00:28:06 Interpretation of planets
00:36:12 Character-based aspects
00:38:34 Aspect patterns
00:40:45 Moon phase
00:42:34 Childhood environment
00:46:33 Synastry with family members
00:48:25 Composite charts
00:49:24 Transit
00:52:39 Life stage transits
00:57:43 Approved home themes
01:06:01 Debugging problems
01:07:53 Secondary progressions
01:11:01 Solar arcs
01:12:56 Retrograde rotations of Venus and Mars
01:14:35 Eclipse periods
01:16:00 Final words
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