Episode 478 features and interview with astrologer Jason Holley about experiential astrology, a dynamic approach that seeks to incorporate astrological symbols in creative and interactive ways, including bringing the chart to life through group action with Astrodrama.
Experiential Astrology stems from some of the experimentation with various psychological methods that occurred in the astrological community in the 1970s and 80s, and Jason particularly highlights the work of astrologer Barbara Shermer.
Jason defines Experiential Astrology as engaging with astrological symbolism through multiple faculties of mind and perception, including somatic, emotional, imaginative, instinctual, kinesthetic, expressive, and relational.
This approach emphasizes the fully conscious experience of astrological symbolism, moving beyond conceptual understanding to felt, lived experience.
In the discussion, we focused on a particular application of experimental astrology known as Astrodrama, which involves a group of people standing around and charting a person’s birth chart, and we discussed different ways to do this.
Conference of Living Astrologers
Jason is hosting the October 2025 Experiential Astrology Conference:
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- (00:00:00) Introduction to Experiential Astrology
- (00:06:03) Engaging the senses in astrology
- (00:11:52) Historical context of experiential astrology
- (00:18:51) Astrodrama process
- (00:25:49) Facilitating Astrodrama sessions
- (00:37:55) Multiplicity of Self in Astrology
- (00:43:51) Comfort with uncertainty in astrology
- (00:49:22) Experienced astrology: Laws and transits
- (00:56:55) Empathy and role reversal in relationships
- (01:05:16) Oracle and Querent Dynamic
- (01:11:17) Essential Texts in Experiential Astrology
- (01:17:53) Creating a sacred space for astrology
- (01:23:57) Experimental work: Listening to the field
- (01:29:32) The importance of movement in astrology
- (01:34:54) Subtlety of experienced work
- (01:41:31) Warm-up and integration in group work
- (01:58:30) Learning from challenges and limitations
- (02:04:21) Managing Emotional Responses in Astrology
- (02:10:44) Experiential Astrology: Combining Theory and Practice
- (02:17:37) Living Astrologer Conference
- (02:25:38) Personal Journeys in Astrology: Family Heritage
- (02:37:45) Credits
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